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The Floran Problem

Discussion in 'Archives' started by Doctor Frohman, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Doctor Frohman

    Doctor Frohman New Member

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    Apparently, in this sector, many people trust and care about Florans. Have we learned nothing? Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, as a wise human philosopher once said.

    Have we forgotten the fact that the Florans wiped out the Hylotl Homeworld?
    Have we forgotten the fact that they are agressive and moral-less at birth?
    Have we forgotten the fact that they eat people?

    Well I haven't.
    I believe that Florans should be restricted from civilized colonies, due to their tribalistic and murderous nature.
    "But Doctor, what about the civilized ones?"
    Well, I said restricted. Florans should have to apply for a passport to freely move around the city and do as they please. Any Florans that do not have one will be escorted away, or removed entirely. It'd be up to the colony the boundaries of the passport.

    This is a voting poll. Sign with your Starnet account, let your voice be heard, let the colonies know that we want a safer place to live.

    - Abelschrimen Amphenheimer
     
  2. Thewaltham

    Thewaltham New Member

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    Great. More ways we can be oppressed. Look at it this way. With humans, they had a race called "mongols", led by a powerful leader who... Gah, no idea what his name was. Anyway...

    These mongols raped, pillaged and conquered vast swaths of land, yet, people with an asian background, (which the mongols were) are not oppressed, they don't have to apply for a passport, in which unscrupulous colony leaders will make it more about "Yeah, pay us this much and you can enter".

    This is ridiculous.

    =Sprocket=
     
  3. ASinisterIon

    ASinisterIon New Member

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    I think it should be up to the individual colony leaders on whether or not they allow members of ANY race, and if a passport should be allowed. The terms would also be decided by them, and this would allow this to be a colony by colony basis, instead of a sector wide restriction.

    --OneClickHeadshot
     
  4. Switchback

    Switchback Iss likess fissh eyess~!

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    You could always, you know, stop whining and carry a gun on you?
    I've treated florans before, sure they've threatened to eat me but did they ever do so?
    I wouldn't be typing this if i was in a florans stomach.
    As a doctor and cultural enthusiast this is just sad...


    ~Dr.Rakael Kong
     
  5. Day Tripper

    Day Tripper miller ball breaker

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    *From: throwaway#[email protected]*

    If you truly believe that this would be a decent decision, I feel sorry for the people who have had the misfortune of spending time with you.

    Being an individual with a functioning brain, I tend to carry weaponry on my being, so as to protect myself, and not be an insufferable prick to everyone else in the galaxy.

    This concept seems a bit out of your grasp, as you are complaining about your problems over a computer, instead of doing something about it.
     
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  6. John_McFakename

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    *recording starts, he speaks in binary which he translated before posting*

    Luminaria's slave markets. = Humans
    USCM's penal colonies. = Humans
    The Outcasts. = Humans
    The Miniknog's experiments. = Apex
    Murder of my fiancee. = Apex
    Holy Fleet's Floran ban. = Avians
    Disphotic Order's vigilantism in colonies not under their authority. = Hylotls

    Like you meatbags are any better...

    Sincerely, John M893-CV.
    *recording ends*
     
  7. Avis

    Avis Halloweenie of the Serengeti

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    Florans are, in general, an incredibly dangerous race. While each of the sentient races has had prominent moments with harmful decisions, these moments were extensively premeditated and with their own reasons. Take for example, the Floran ban by the Holy Fleet. This had occurred because on multiple occasions, Florans had attacked bystanders with no apparent cause; including those who were attempting to help them medically, and including members of the Relzurautt Armada itself. The average pioneer in this sector would likely not be able to stave off a Floran on his own, let alone best it in a fight.

    @Sprocket

    Your knowledge of my peoples' history, and your eloquence would suggest that you are not a Floran at all.

    -Donovan
     
  8. Thewaltham

    Thewaltham New Member

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    Ooh sure, just because I use proper grammar I'm not a Floran. In truth, I was raised by humans. Maybe you're right, I might not be a "true Floran", but none the less, you can't ban an entire species just because "oooh, tribal markings and spears, ooooh scary!" Even though they aren't really any more likely to attack than a human, at least the ones that you find living on a colony.

    Sure, go to a tribal planet, and you'd get stabbed in five minutes, hell, I probably would as well with my accent and the way I look at things, but those are tribals, not the civilised Florans that live in colonies among other races.
     
  9. Destroyer713

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    Declaration. I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that Florans are always welcome on all colonies of the Gryphon Cluster, so long as they obey the laws in place. No matter the race, there are always members of a race who are willing to respect the local authority, so there is no need for restrictions of what races may visit our colonies. Having to issue passports would simply be a hassle and unneeded expense on everyone's part, so they will continue to not be needed to visit colonies of the Gryphon Cluster.

    Reminding. Despite the recent ban of large firearms on colonies of the Gryphon Cluster, small, non-automatic firearms such as pistols are still permitted, in order to allow our residents and visitors the ability of self-defense should a Floran or any other race decide to disrespect the laws of the Gryphon Cluster. Order personnel will also always be present ((except for the times we're all offline... >.>)) to keep the peace and keep an eye on any potential trouble makers. Please do not hesitate to contact any Order members if the need arises.

    Cold. The Order will not hesitate to to arrest, or even execute in extreme cases, anyone who chooses to bring harm upon our residents and visitors, regardless of what race they are.

    - Windows Omega, Acting Grandmaster of the Order
     
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  10. Avis

    Avis Halloweenie of the Serengeti

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    ((To be fair, Florans' intelligence and lisps are both physiological and psychosomatic traits; they're primitive in their mindset and they speak as they do because they are perfectly incapable of expanding any further.))
     
  11. CaptainBritton02

    CaptainBritton02 Man of War

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    You want to know what damn tribal florans did to me? Bloodmuncher warband they were called ((Totally an out of Antares warband)). They wrecked my ship and sent me adrift all because when they attacked MY homeworld, I took up arms and joined the Hylotl Scientific Emergency Navy (H.S.E.N). I wouldn't trust a floran unless they could prove to resist their bloodlust urges. My rant is done, hate on me, call me fish trash, but just know florans that would eat a hylotl on sight, know you will have another thing coming messin' with this hylotl.

    -Warof3000(Seaguard)
     
  12. FFPLEASE

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    Keeping the gun all the time is ridicilous.
    -Arc
     
  13. Switchback

    Switchback Iss likess fissh eyess~!

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    From the way you answered Sprocket your tone makes it seem like you don't care at all for a Florans well being. In fact, it sounds a lot like Tyranny.
    "Quite bluntly, were it possible, it would be far more acceptable to confine them upon their home planet and strip them of all stolen technology, allowing them to join us only when they had toiled similarly to our races with the flight of time, and later choose to annihilate or suppress them if a similar outcome emerged."
    To put it bluntly, from an educational observation. If you were put in power of anywhere you'd put race restrictions up at every turn.

    ~Dr.Rakael Kong
     
  14. Toadkid1234

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    While I believe this would be an interesting idea if put into action, it will have to be something solely employed by a single settlement. The Antares Sector is largely ungoverned and underpopulated relative to other locations, and establishing social order will need to start in smaller, localized regions. I suggest you take this up with a colony leader, depending on how it is executed this could work.

    The Standard Floran is, unfortunately, naturally violent and tend to be more prone to consumption of sentient life forms. This is statistically supported by a number of surveys. There are, however, a significant amount who have proven to be more civilized, likely as a result of coincidental rapid artificial selection, caused by their different upbringing. Depending on the manner in which a Floran is accepted into a colony, this proposal could function in favor of both Floran and other races. There would be fewer incidences of Floran-initiated violence (which ranks number one relative to other species' sudden bouts of violence), and other races would be exposed to the Revolutionary Floran, likely improving the general opinion of Florans and thus facilitating the rapid assimilation of the Floran species and culture into our society.

    I am intrigued to see this in action, and to see the results. You have my support, and my help and guidance, should you so desire it.

    -RayBeluga
     
  15. DirtyGoblin

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    Those florans who are seen as "trouble makers" or "savage beyond hope" will be welcomed in the Armada, provided they can accept some small conditions. The Relzurrautt Armada is seeking strong willed florans eager to put their talents to noble uses.
     
  16. Doctor Frohman

    Doctor Frohman New Member

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    I wonder what they'll use the Florans for.
    Probably leaf-shields.
    - Clarice
     
  17. Dekerrex

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    Floranss, like all other racess, are entitled to the natural rightssss given by any "civilized" sspecie ass you may call them. If Floranss are to primitive, Teach usss. If Floransss too dangerusss, leave uss alone. But take away the rightsss we all ssolely desserve..
    Floranss are not afriad to sstart fights. Floranss will ssstand their ground. Sssupressment, banisshment, and raccissm... It will only make Floranss angrier, and sssoon enough, Floranss will fight back sssupressers. Floranss will not resst until we have what all Racesss want. Life, Freedom, and Joy.

    ~OrchidVenom
     
  18. Doctor Frohman

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    My post here says that primitive Florans should be banned from any civilized colony until they are accepted. As the colony would make the permit, I assume they would make sure that the Florans were civilized before entering.
    The only right I'm saying to remove is the freedom to parade around any colony you please without a passport or permit.
    - Abelschrimen Amphenheimer
     
  19. Baron

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    So you're wanting to segregate an entire species from society and put them beneath restrictions that make it harder for them to develop socially and gain a new grasp on a tamer aspect of life? Stupid idea, don't restrict the freedom of the people, Floran or not. You attempt to justify your reasoning behind some holy crusade to better the lives of everyone but are you sure it's not some racial grab to instigate some form of superiority? Are you any better than them truly?

    Inclusion of this law is a mistake, you have been warned.

    -Baron Zerrax
     
  20. Sammy McHammyDoodle

    Sammy McHammyDoodle New Member

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    BUNKER
    I think you meant feral instead of primitive since a lot of Florans are primitive, guy.

    But anyways, Florans are just people, you just have to make sure not to make them angry and not walk into them in a dark alley when they're hungry. (As an organic this is.) That's all, they're really just nice people, some of them are a little dumb or annoying, but every single one of the species has dumb and annoying people in them aswell. So maybe you just need to be a little more accepting or I have just missed any Florans misbehavin'.