The coming Combat update. (And more ramblings.)

Why would anyone use swords, when firearms, be it ballistic or energy in nature, are superior in just about every plausible situation where one may require a weapon.

That said, cultural exceptions, such as the archtypical Floran Savage or Glitch Warrior, would be expected to be more at ease with their antiquated melee weapons.

 

Ingame mechanics do not decide how a lot of people develop a character. I don't expect this update will come with an increase of melee-based characters as its still not a viable choice in most situations when faced with a firearm. Plus, the ingame system doesn't actually make RP combat and different.

All that said, still nice to see the effort in making the combat more appealing, as it's pure shit at the moment.

 

I once had a character that was a blind hylotl blademaster, augmented with cybernetics and stuff. There's a place for characters like that so long as they don't try to use their melee weapon in every situation and actually think about when it would be good. I dunno though, guns should remain the norm, as they're easier to use efficiently and more readily available and have the ranged capability.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see floran raiders capture people and force them to fight eachother to the death using spears and knives in a dirty pit somewhere. But there's a time and a place for melee, is what I'm saying.

 

I do feel that melee weapons would be an interesting combat RP scenario. It's far more personal than '*aims at shoulder and shoot.*' Like, you're up in each others' faces, glaring and snarling and fighting and writhing to the bitter bloody end. It's far more intense and emotional than just '*bang bang shoot u with old earth gun I made in starcheat lol.*'

Speaking on the topic of emotional, that's one thing I would be ecstatic to see more of. Nobody wants to roleplay the negative emotional effects of being put through trauma like having to end someone else's life or watching their friends die. Which sucks, because it's interesting roleplay. I don't understand how people can get off to this 'yeah, I've been doing this a while. I kill like eight guys on my way downstairs for breakfast, no biggie.' It's boring and gross. Taking crazy meds and crying yourself to a nightmare-riddled sleep-like state is something that a real person can identify with. Not this 'oh I just killed some guys, let's go walk around Olympus and get a drink after the doc patches us up'

C'moooooon.

 

There's talks of an arena being set up. If you want to see more melee conflict on the server, you should support it's development.

The only problem is, people rarely put research into how things work, myself included. I'd like to see perhaps a dojo, to train characters in martial arts. I myself had to take a basic self defense course for my PT, and we used batons. Ergo, I know a very basic set of moves for that. I'd be willing to train people in how to use those. Very basic, pretty boring, but's something. If it's gonna be done, I'd want to see realistic melee combat, rather than straight up anime attacks.

*breaks the seventh seal* Was something I saw once. I hope to never see it again.

Tl;Dr- characters who are well versed in hand to hand should either draw on real life knowledge or look up basic guides and train other players for that arena thing.

 

*The Arena, as mentioned by Tacc.*

I don't have a heck of a lot to add. I feel as if most character carry around guns because they are either gun toting badasses, or they are regular citizens on the server and guns are a deterrent to people screwing with them. It used to be way more necessary, back in the days when we had slavery arcs and things like that, but since then things are more peaceful and the guns are somewhat redundant.

I think during the entire time I played Ion, she only once committed a violent act, and it was on someone who was already dead. And it screwed her up pretty badly. She didn't buy a gun until recently (And even then it was only after suffering severe PTSD, being brainwashed, and then being kidnapped by Nurora). I feel as if a lot of players feel like they need constantly have defense. Realistically you can survive in Antares, or in Council, with just your wits.

 

You can have it, I'd love to see it happen.

You've never met Greg, I see. Doesn't leave his house, doesn't make connections with people, he's just waiting to die at this point.

Training RP is actually super fun man, do it.

That's actually a really good point, I'd like to see more people without weapons turning up now we're in council space.

 

Melee fighting is fun, not practical.
I really hope game mechanics stay as they are, just game mechanics and not roleplay, or do we forget that SB characters can typically jump 2-3x their height?

 

I will slap some of the cool stuff on my melee weapons, thats for sure!
Katana weeabo action, woo!

But on the matter on dank guns vs dank swords. The quicker the draw, the quicker the chop! But this has to happen in close quarters and my character has a pistol with him in colonies. Just in case.

 

There's no reason it can't, people just don't, and there's honestly not much we can do about it. Bad RP is just bad RP, after all.

The only real steps you can take is to set a good example and/or report them should people pull some godmodey stuff..

On the subject of melee weapons, I wouldn't mind seeing more of them. I've always been fine with people having some sci-fi tech that gives their melee weapons some kind of edge (GET IT?) over modern armor... It's true the usual gunfight RP usually involves shady stuff like dodging bullets and surviving hits that would incapacitate someone, which then eventually devolves into people bickering OOC about what's "realistic"

 

I am for this, hence I sort of resorted to lightsaber like melee weapons as a solid alternative to guns in close-combat. Also because it looks cool. Wherefore thou wond'rs? Because I want to use melee, it fits with my character and I love it. Testing your finesse, agility and strength against a different opponent. Be it Glitch, Floran, Man or Avian. I will gladly face them in battle, even if its dubbed as useless, worthless, pathetic.

In Council space I hoped for less reliance on guns and more reliance on melee, because melee weapons are easier to craft and to maintain than guns. Sure, the lightsaber-like weapons may or may not get out of power at some point, but thats determined by the quality of the battery

 

I forget who said it, or even the exact quote, but it went something like this.

"Any peasant can pick up a gun and kill just as effectively as a veteran swordsman."

There's more to it but I don't remember.

Anyhow, the reason why guns will always be widespread is because they're 1. Easy as hell to emote compared to melee, 2. Easier to acquire in terms of sheer availability, 3. While training makes you more effective, so long as you can load and pull the trigger, you're just as effective at close range as any melee user.

To surmise, there is a reason there will never be a huge influx of melee users. They'll always be beaten out by someone with a gun, and rightfully so. Even if it's the future, there's no amount of technology that can make a weapon that can block bullets or energy projectiles. Even if it could, no one has the reflexes to be able to do so. Melee users would never survive in a straight up fight, they would have to sneak or use the environment to win.

I recommend making arenas,

like this. In fact, everyone there will be using melee weapons. I myself have started training people in proper baton use. We're going to move on to hand to hand disarming, throws, knife combat etc etc. I recommend everyone start doing the same if they want to see more melee combat on the server that doesn't amount to what they saw in their favourite animu.

 

aw yiss that shits fun

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