Apex Navy Expeditionary Force: A player faction proposal

*all flattered n shit* I wish you luck, hopefully this doesn't go the way of Apex factions of the past.

 

I would love a cold war atmosphere going on to challenge the USCM! (nothing against you guys Tacc, but you do stand rather unopposed)

Must it be in tandem with the Miniknog though? Most of my fur-clad friends and I have left the Ministry, often quite violently, and would be left without any realistic RP interaction that wouldn't involve a brutal retreat from the area. Granted, it would be nice to have a faction to run from which isn't imaginary. Hope this pans out though, seriously.

 

I also have a concern with the motivation to create this faction. It seems to entirely dependant on the United Systems faction to exist. Come on man.

I think people fail to understand that the USCM faction didn't just sprout up one day. When the server first started, it grew organically, with the purpose of survival in mind. It took a solid month of that before we even made ourselves public, and it took much more time to get to where we are now. I think that's what makes our faction so large and imposing, and for good reason.

I really do hope you get some people onboard. I really do. But with the way the OP is worded, it sounds like this faction only exists because we do. That won't make for good RP at all. Especially when it's time to cause conflict and you have to come up with a reason. That's forcing conflict. If there's one thing I hate more than godmodding, it's forcing a story for the hell of it.

Make the faction because it's interesting, and you want to. Don't make it so a week from now you come to me saying "let's start getting cold war fights going" and when I ask why you say "because". Just do your thing man. Grow around yourselves and if conflict happens it happens.

 

Sorry to go offtopic but how did you get your whole ship in one perfect picture?

 

I never asked myself what would I do with USCM. My character is running free, doing his job, getting infamous and wanted in some colonies. I don't give a damn about USCM because it become non-canon on this server and I do not respect the theorhetical power they claim to own.

After something as bad as apocalypse where pretty much most humanity gets wiped and only militants manage to escape, USCM wouldn't have any reason to care for more than security of their own race and struggle to survive. And I highly doubt why would floran tribe have anything to do with their freedom. Nor darkstar. I mean USCM cannot expect to control every coner of the universe, there must be some places out of their reach, and USCM should respect that. USA doesn't cover full North America, and American soldiers do not freerly roam around canada with full equipment and tanks. Same goes for, for example, USCM trying to enter Tallest Tree not for civil reasons.

(And Darkstar keeps to its business and doesn't exist to piss USCM off as opposed to Firedrinker's faction. Both Darkstar and USCM can cooperate in peace for as long as none intrude each other.)

 

How did it become non-canon exactly? There is a lacking of lore and from what we have extrapolated, the only planet lost was Earth. Sol System in it's entirety was abandoned, but all those citizens and military assets didn't just die. While it was a huge population center, it wasn't the end of humanity as we know it. Codexes refer to other colonies being closed off to aliens for 7 years after the loss of earth (which is where we get the current date of 2414 from). Another codex refers to a human fleet being stationed at mars. The only way we went off canon was the creation of USSEC and characters.

OOCly, I don't expect to control everything. And I have often had to tell people in my faction that we aren't picking a fight. Remember when Hawke got "executed"? We really had no reason to intervene, yet everyone wanted us to. But IC you're damn right I'm gonna try to unite the galaxy. Everything you just listed is what we already do and respect. There was actually a point where Tallest Tree got wiped and they asked us to do an IC bombing. I declined.

But before we clutter up FD's interest check with off topic nonsense we should stop talking about the role of the USCM on the server.

 

He probably took multiple pics and pieced them together.

 

ExtraZoomLevels. a godsend to builders out to share their work.

I'm going to agree with what Tacc says here about the presentation of the faction; it needs to premise itself and load up on intrinsic value before mentioning the possible purpose of existing as a foil to the USCM, otherwise you're just going to end up with folks who want to loggerheads with the USCM and not work on emphasising the finer details of being Apex. As you yourself say, "there is a lot of story to be mined here," which the concept should reflect first. Start with the organisation's goals, values, and purpose. Its public and righteous ones. The stuff it does right. Outline what makes playing an Apex in the service of Big Ape so inspiring (it very much can be if you allow yourself to believe). Move from there.

Because no matter what, antagonists, evil, immoral, the ranks will always be mostly comprised by those who believe they are doing what is best and right for their people. There'd be no need for propaganda if this wasn't the case. It is this dichotomy that makes conflict interesting.

 

Having done some rp with the Captain already, and seeing where that has taken us, I'm in full support of this faction. While the primary directive here is listed as being a foil to the USCM, I can say that it was subtly and elegantly presented in character, to a point that while I RECOGNIZED that there was some sort of conflict there, it didn't seem to be the focus point.

Having a well done "evil" (see: against the interests of many of our PCs) faction is in everybody's interest, I think. Our brief interaction with the faction so far has spurred a great deal of conflict on Alioth Prime, and also some very good ideas that tie several of our storylines together! I imagine, if handled well, it could do the same for many other places as well. So, I'd like to see where you can take this. Stamp of approval.

 

You tempt me good sir, but I don't know if I can let that happen to Vae... but I wont godmode it, lore-wise if you can track down, capture, and impose some good old Big Ape 'hospitality' on her, you may have a recruit.

 

Now this is the inspiring information I love seeing, particularly the portion about the Apex' outward facade vs internal motivations. I was in support of this initiative before (having seen Myth Render in action already), but now I am moreso.

Everything else from that post was excellent, Firedrinker. Now that I'm not about to go to bed (as I was in my last post), I'd like to talk to you about entanglement and enlistment, good sir!

It would definitely make for an interesting arc, particularly if Vae took away science they want control of again.

 

never forget.

Anyways this is a great idea. There really aren't any solid bad guy factions out there right now. CARRY ON YOU HAIRY APE.

 

This whole thing sounds like it could make for some absolutely fantastic roleplay, especially if things actually end up having real political motivation such as diplomatic ties to other factions and maybe even arms proliferation. I see some real potential in having a cold-war type RP. This legitimately has me tempted to make a second character so I could experience both sides of the conflict (even though I just joined and haven't actually started my first character arc yet).

 

Scorpius approves.

(I'd only change "go where these people are" to something more propagandist: "go where these deviants gather." Deviancy is NOT permitted by the Apex.)

 

I can vouch for the fact that, even with only one or two people in this faction so far, it's been really fun for RP. Brought a lot of intrigue to Alioth Prime the other day, and activity's been buzzing about it ever since. I quite love this idea, for a number of reasons. Hope it remains successful!

 

I hope the RA gets to meet them