Raids, Crime, and Self Defense

i am not sure i understand the purpose of this post, but here
the outcasts are going to attack a colony when they feel like
the only exceptions are when it is something that /must/ be planned, when there are either too many guards around, or too little guards around
i want attacks to be fair
so i will never bring in all of the outcasts at once when there are only three guards online, and i will never bring in three outcasts when all of the guards are online
the only advantage that the outcasts have over other factions is strategy, whereas every other faction seems to know only one strategy, which is throwing people at us until we die or run away

i very rarely expect anyone on the opposing side to die or even take major losses during an outcast attack, so the argument of permanent vs non-permanent characters being unfair is rather weak

 

The issue I see is that both the Outcasts, and other factions, have no assets to fight over except their existence / homeworld.

 

Indeed. Where is the driving motivation beyond just wanton destruction?

If anything, all the outcasts will manage at this rate is getting the rest of the universe to hate them, like the USCM.

 

But I thought this was the point :c

 

On those grounds... maybe a couple of us snazzy builders could build up some basic vantage points on random planets. Lumber yards, mines, refineries, factories. Etc.

And then peepa can go all battle royale

 

If your goal is to end up despised and be rejected from RP by everyone else, sure.

If your goal is to be a respected antagonist faction that people enjoy the RP of, because they provide enjoyable well RPed conflict, no, that's not the current direction it is going.

 

I would like to add, "enjoyable" doesn't always mean good. There are a lot of people here that automatically categorize "I won" as well rp'ed conflict, and "I lost" as poorly rp'ed conflict.

Some people call any RP that doesn't end with them sitting a top a gold throne surrounded by cup bearers and love-struck slaves bad RP.

In every possible scenario, these types of people are the ones at fault.

 

I have more respect for the people who know their limits and will willingly lose in RP if it doesnt go there way, and dont complain.

 

the difference between the outcasts and the uscm is that the uscm was a collection of objectively bad roleplayers, among other things
i feel that the only reason the outcasts have any kind of a negative reputation ooc is their goal of spreading chaos ic

there is certainly a problem on the server where many people seem incapable of separating themselves from their characters, and that kind of behavior is very harmful, especially toward people playing antagonists

 

objectively bad RPers.

That is opinion, thoughts on someone or their style is never objective, if you think that, you a truly beyond delusional.

 

are you trying to teach me the definition of objective or justify their rp

 

He wouldnt have to justify the RP because its an opinion on your part. There are those who would agree, and those who would disagree, as with every opinion. Have as many as you want. Using objectively would be the wrong word for that however.

 

I merely taught you the difference between objective and subjective.

It is impossible to judge quality objectively, as quality is comparative and therefore always subjective.

And I would not waste my energy trying to justify anything to you as you are a person who would never concede in their beliefs, no matter how misguided they might be.

 

believe it or not, i have asked for feedback before
there is a reason i refused to go to the forums for it, though
this thread has turned out to be nothing but a place for players to show their unwarranted disdain for the outcasts
perhaps some people do have genuine concerns, but very few were worded in a way that managed to move me whatsoever

if anyone is willing to carry on a mature conversation without pulling the "ugh you just dont want to be wrong" card, i encourage you to stay
otherwise piss off, you are doing nothing but attacking the group and those within it under the thinly-veiled guise of criticism

 

lol
/4char

[For the record, between the two of us, which one put words in the other's mouth. ]

 

(Can this not start into a polite flame war plz thx bai)

 

(That was totally to Skipi/Mal. Ur ok.)