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Floran physiology(open for discussion)

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    Floran physiology
    Preface

    Florans are often regarded as the intergalactic apex predator, a species of proud and powerful hunters. But who are the Floran really? Are they defined by their savage ways? Or are they perhaps a unique specimen in the ever-changing circle of life? The Floran have been a fascinating subject of study to biologists for decades. Their rapid development, physiology and way of life are practically an embodiment of Darwinian theory. Almost every aspect of Floran life and culture always boils down to “survival of the fittest”.

    General physiology
    In order to discuss the unique biological makeup of this species one must first address the term “plantoid”. Plantoids are a group of organisms, that have evolved in a radically different way than the more traditional members of the plant kingdom.

    Florans are plantoids. As such, some aspects of their physiology are remarkably similar to that of members of the animal kingdom. More specifically, Florans resemble other bipedal humanoid species. The basic parts of the Floran body are the head, neck, torso, arms and legs. Other bod parts include the Floran's foliage, flower(s), etc... Despite to the striking similarities Florans have come to share with their animal counterparts, their true origins as plant-based lifeforms are readily apparant.

    Respiration
    The Floran respiratory process functions mostly like one would expect.
    Florans breathe a mixture of gasses, primarily compsed from oxygen and carbon dioxide.
    These gasses are required to allow the Florans to participate in the processes of cellular respiration and photosynthesis.

    Gas exchange, primarily an automated process, occurs through pores known as "stomates". These stomates are located on the skin, leaves and other organs. Additionally, Florans are also able to controll their inhalation and exhalation, which has allowed them to be develop the ability of speech, to facilitate communication between other members of their species. Florans have also developed vocal chords for this purpose.


    Oxygen and carbon dioxide are spread throughout the Floran’s body through diffusion, a process which is also responsible for the regulation of their body temperature. Florans are capable to function during a period of suspended respiration. They can hold their breath for more or less the same amount of time as an average human adult.

    Photosynthesis
    While the process of photosynthesis within Florans is fairly standard, the product is relatively unique to their species, even among other plantoids. Floran photosynthesis allows for the production of a special substance, containing a high concentration of nutrients and special hormones, which enhances their phloem sap. This rather mysterious substance is gradually released into the Floran’s system and allows for increased physical prowess or in rare cases, enhanced mental capabilities. In turn the absence of this substance can prove detrimental for a Floran’s physical and mental health.

    Additionally, one should keep in mind that despite the advantages the Florans gain from photosynthesis there is also a rather significant disadvantage assosciated with photosynthesis.
    When the process of photosynthesis is concluded, transpiration occurs. This results in a loss of water vapour, which can prove problematic in case this loss isn’t compensated through inhalation of humid air or water consumption.

    Habitat
    Many observations have confirmed that Floran tribes tend to leave planets with certain undesirable climates alone. They tend to avoid the following biome types: magma oceans, volcanic landmasses, arctic, tundra, snow, sunless, airless, dry savannah’s and deserts. This is mostly due to the extreme climates they represent, however, they are more sensitive to these biomes than others.

    As mentioned previously, Florans tend to lose a significant amount of water vapour as a result of photosynthesis. Contrary to another plantoid, the Trictus, Florans haven’t evolved to withstand prolonged exposure to drought, which can leave Florans in a mummified, barely living state, before they eventually succumb to the elements, crumbling to dust. This is the reason why it is vitally important for Florans to remain properly hydrated at all costs.

    Additionally, due to the way the Floran body regulates body temperature is spread throughout the body, they are also extremely susceptible to hypothermia as a result of cold temperatures. This is an issue a simple fur coat won’t be able to remedy.

    Finally one must emphasize the importance of natural light to a Floran. It allows them to partake in photosynthesis, a process which proves to be vital to sustain the Floran biology. Prolonged absence of sunlight will result in them being unable to partake in photosynthesis. This will cause them to grow weaker and increasingly frustrated as a result.

    Senses
    Sight:
    It has been established that plants are capable of detecting colours. While Florans seem to possess monochromatic eyes, they are not colour blind. The eyes are responsible for providing a Floran a picture, which is necessary to put the colours they receive from sensory information into context.


    Additionally, Florans possess a form of natural night vision, to help them hunt in the dark.
    However, their night vision doesn't provide them with sufficient sensory information required to tell colours apart, therefor they are colourblind when there is a lack of light.

    Hearing:
    Similar to the Floran’s sense of sight, their sense of hearing receives its sensory information from multiple sources. Visible on either side of the Floran’s head, Florans have inner ears, similar to those of humans but without the outer ear. Additionally, Florans sense vibrations through their roots, which enhances their hearing. This also allows them to sense an upcoming earthquake, much like some animals.

    Smell:
    Florans possess a forked tongue similar to that of a snake in terms of functionality, resulting in an extremely keen sense of smell, which allows them to gain a directional sense of smell and taste simultaneously. This in turn grants them heightened abilities to identify prey, recognize kin, choose mates, locate shelters, follow trails and more. The Jacobson organ is located in the Floran's inner mouth, near where one would expect to find a nose, should Florans possess this sensory organ.

    This forked tongue is also the main cause for the infamous Floran lisp. When a Floran lisps, it is a result of them attempting to speak whilst also reflexively trying to smell the area. This reflex can be suppressed, but requires a conscious effort and quite a lot of practice from the Floran.

    Taste:
    As previously stated, Florans are capable of experiencing a sense of taste, from smelling prey, due to their forked tongue. In addition to this, Florans have a highly developed palate for meaty and sweet foods as a result of their physiological needs.

    Touch:
    Florans have smooth skin, which is more durable when compared with the human equivalent. Their nervous system seems to be more sensitive to temperature than average. In contrast however, Florans seem to have a higher tolerance for pain. Burns and frostbite may cause a Floran to lose their sense of touch on the affected areas permanently.

    It’s also worth mentioning that, despite its clear similarities to the nervous systems in other animals, their body parts are incompatible with regular cybernetics, resulting in the necessity of specialised cybernetics, developed specifically to replace Floran body parts that have been burnt away.

    Skeletal structure
    A Floran’s skeletal structure is strikingly similar to that of other humanoids, which isn’t all that surprising. Its bones are infused with lignin, giving it a wood-like appearance. This unique structure causes them to be more flexible and less prone to fractures, yet more flammable than conventional bones. Additionally, their bone marrow contains a starch-like substance.

    Similar to some insects, a Floran’s jaw is outfitted with strong mandibles, which share the same colouration as their skin and are commonly used for cracking bones open, in order to consume bone marrow, or for performing similar tasks. The mouth is filled with a vast amount of sharp, tiny, yet durable teeth. These teeth have a brownish colouration, as they are made from a similar material as the rest of the Floran skeleton.

    It is also worth mentioning that despite the fact that Floran’s jaw muscles have evolved to be powerful enough to snap bones, the muscles responsible for opening the jaw are comparatively much weaker. As a result, an average adult can hold a Floran's jaws shut bare-handed.

    Metabolism
    Another area where plantoids differ a lot from traditional plant-life is their metabolism.
    In nature, plants are known for their ability to regenerate. However, this is a rather slow process, as a result of their comparatively slow metabolism. This of course would prove detrimental to the lifestyle of a mobile, carnivorous plant which feeds on prey.

    In order to speed up this regenerative process, Florans have developed an extremely accelerated metabolism. This results in the fact that they are required to eat large quantities of food in order to sustain themselves. Another result of this increased metabolism, is that despite the fact that Florans are plant-based organisms, often compared and slightly similar to trees in some ways, do not live quite as long as a tree, possessing a lifespan of around 300 years old. However, most Florans don't live long enough to die of old age, as a result of their way of life.

    Florans are carnivores and as such, their digestive process is similar to that most carnivorous predators. They have saliva, with strong enzymes to aid in the digestive process, paired with potent stomach acids. As a result of this highly efficient digestive process, a Floran’s stomach lining has to be thick and able to quickly absorb nutrients that have been digested. Waste is accumulated and is lead through the intestinal tract as it is eventually expelled from the Floran’s body.

    Because a Floran’s stomach is filled with exceptionally potent digestive acids, they are capable of consuming raw meat without a problem, despite preferring the taste of cooked meat. Coupled with other unique aspects of their physiology, Florans are immune to some diseases and resistant to some toxins which would harm animals. However, Florans are also vulnerable to other pathogens that specifically target plant-life and other substances that would have a harmful effect on other plants.

    Florans, despite being classified as carnivores, occasionally eat some plants, however these are generally other plantoids, fellow Florans, or a few exceptions, like the Oculemon, which has a texture that is very similar to that of a large animal’s eye or a Pussplum, which resembles a bloody chunk of meat, with a juicy, yet fruity taste.

    Regeneration
    Resulting from their rapid metabolism, the Floran healing process is known for its remarkable regenerative abilities. This process of regeneration is often hindered or completely halted by multiple factors: a lack of nutrition, drought, cold temperatures, burn wounds or frostbite. It is also worth mentioning, while being impressive, this regenerative process takes a long time to complete and relies on a Floran’s ability to keep itself fed and rested throughout the regenerative process.

    However, despite the fact that Florans are generally a hardy species and can recover from serious wounds, if the damage dealt to the Floran body overwhelms their regenerative capabilities, or if their vitally, internal organs, which they can't fully regenerate are damaged, they will almost certainly perish.

    It is also one of the reasons why cybernetic replacements are considered impractical.
    Despite the fact that the cybernetics would be adapted to become compatible with the Floran nervous system, the process of regeneration would interfere with the integration of the cybernetics with the Floran body.

    Circulation
    Contrary to common belief, Florans do possess a heart, at least in a biological sense. It is essential for the proper circulation of sap through a Floran’s body. Sap runs through stems and a network of tubes branching from them, similar to the network or arteries and veins in animals. However, unlike most animal lifeforms, this sap, although similar to blood in that it transports nutrients and water, does not transport oxygen.

    Additionally, when a Floran suffers a wound that results in bleeding, their sap will function similarly to blood when exposed to the air. Due to a process similar to coagulation, these wounds are rapidly sealed off, allowing the healing process to start.

    Mental capabilities
    Florans are widely thought to be a species of naïve, savage, simple and generally unintelligent beings. Unfortunately this proves to be true for most Florans, as some do seem to have potential, however, due to the ruthless process of natural selection, from the moment they are born, not many Florans gifted with an exceptional mind reach adulthood.

    However, Florans are generally somewhat clever, or at least more than they get credit for. Despite the fact that Floran society discourages the pursuit of knowledge and instead glorifies the Hunt, Floran wisemen and shamans are held in high regard among their kin, as they generally manage to reach an above average age, as many other Florans die in the Hunt.

    Contrary to one’s expectations, due to Floran society not supporting organised education, or rather, seemingly attempting to actively thwart it, some exceptional Florans generally succeed in reverse engineering stolen technology, which their kin is all too eager to put to use, if it can be of use to them on their next hunt.

    Drysap
    A substance that is similar to Avian crystals, in terms of its mysterious nature and scarce availability, was pioneered by Greenfinger to become the wonder drug that would allow Florans to expand their habitat, by injecting Drysap into their system, is a very dangerous substance. While it does allow a Floran to survive for an extended period of time in warm, dry climates, it has a wide array of terrible side-effects, unknown to most Florans.

    Drysap quickly reproduces within Floran veins, replacing their own with a stronger, hardier substance that leaves the Floran body requiring almost no water. Unfortunately, this is no miracle serum… Florans are bound to reject the serum sooner or later and will suffer severely from its side-effects. Those whose bodies reject the Drysap soon grow frustrated and antisocial, reporting visions and night terrors. Additionally Florans may experience a loss in appetite and spirit and as rejection continues, these Florans will grow increasingly aggressive and confused, until they eventually go insane.

    It is noteworthy that after having been injected with Drysap, it is still possible for a Floran to recover, so long the harmful side-effects haven’t yet set in. After a period of experiencing some harsh withdrawal symptoms and forced bed rest, at this stage most Florans will make a complete recovery. However, the further the stage of rejection has progressed and the longer a Floran has been using Drysap, the more risky and unlikely a full recovery becomes.

    Rejection of the Drysap is triggered, as it attempts to mutate Florans into something different.
    As a result photosynthesis is completely discontinued within these Florans, which would cause them to grow weak if it weren’t for the Drysap’s influence. Instead the sap sustains their strength, hardens their skin and allows them to withstand the drought. It would seem that the more intelligent the Floran, the more rapidly their physiology seems to reject the substance.

    Some Florans have been recorded to have undergone some form of transformation as a result of multiple mutations caused by the repeated usage of Drysap. Their body becomes covered in a tough, bark-like substance, which is somewhat resistant to fire, similar to the bark of a Baobab. These Florans have been referred to as “the Oaken soldiers”.

    Due to its addictive and destructive qualities, Drysap usage has been banned and is only to be used by the Greenguard, in the Dust. At least there, any Floran who succumbs to its side-effects can be marched straight into a cell.

    Reproduction
    The issue of sex, in Florans is often quite deceptive, as Florans aren’t a species that has a binary division of males and females and are in fact a hermaphroditic species, comparable to a “perfect flower”. However, Florans have, throughout their rapid evolution, come in contact with other humanoid species and have adopted different methods of hunting, dividing the species in two different types.

    At first glance, members of other species would assume that Florans are divided into males and females. As previously explained, this is false. Often colloquially referred to as Orchids and Roses, these two types often share some physical resemblance with males and female members respectively, of the mammalian humanoids they have preyed upon, particularly Apex and more recently, humans.

    As a result, this deceptive appearance has also influenced the Floran’s behaviour, which attributes male and female mannerisms to the pseudo-males and -females respectively. In terms of gender identity, most Florans, when asked about this, will conform to the gender of the sex they appear to be. So, socially and psychologically, Florans can be divided into two genders, however they all technically share the same sex. The more effeminate members of this race often rearrange the foliage located on their torso, to create the illusion of possessing breasts.

    Florans typically reproduce sexually with a partner, thus they partake in cross pollination. However, in rare cases, Florans have been known to self-pollinate. Florans instinctively realise that cross pollination is superior to self-pollination, as well as the other advantages of this method.

    Contrary to popular belief, progeny that resulted from self-pollination is not a clone of its parent, due to the homologous recombination that takes place during meiosis, the DNA in these specimens will not be identical to the DNA of the parent Floran. Therefor it might be more accurate to compare them with a sibling than it is to compare them with a clone, in terms of genetic similarity.

    Florans are known to reproduce at an astounding rate, which has resulted them often being contemptuously compared to weeds. The amount of offspring a Floran has at a time depends on a few key factors: the abundance of prey, quality of nearby soil, population and tribal tradition. It is common practice among tribes, when there is an abundance of new sprouts (Floran younglings), to have them fight each other to the death, to weed out the weak.

    After reproduction, a seed is planted, often at a tribal birthing ground with fertile soil and in a clearing, as to allow sunlight to reach the cocoon-plant wherein the Floran develops at an astounding rate. Upon emerging from this cocoon, a Floran has reached what is considered the physical equivalent of a young adult in humans. However, Florans become semi-conscious only after reaching a late state of development within the cocoon, which explains their child-like mental age despite already being able to communicate with their kin.
     
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    Also special thanks to the wonderful people who've already given me some feedback and constructive critiscism.
    You know who you are.
     
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    [Feedback]
    • Drysap final stage: fire resistant - keep; as the source of drysap looks to be some form of "demonic" Baobab, Oaken soldiers aren't functional characters and experience the same limitations as an Agaran PC in the sense that you require staff permission to use them and they're preferrably used as a convenient throwaway adversary character, giving them some natural armor to make them more of a challenge. They still die to conventional weaponry. (Ballistic, Crystal, Energy, by order of effectiveness)
    • Photosynthesis arenaline - keep; rephrasing, apparantly comparing it to adrenaline is too "confusing". => Floran Phloem sap.
    • Florans have no nose; forked tongue - keep; + jacobson organ situated in the head, at the same height a nose would be.
    • Plant tits: evolutionary adjustment to lure/deceive prey - keep; clarification: no plant tits, just shifted/adjusted foliage to create the illusion.
    [Announcement]

    Unless strong opposition to the contents of this write-up is expressed, I'm finalising this physiology draft.
    In the meantime people are still encouraged to give additional feedback.
     
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    You already know how I feel about this. I like it.
     
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    The one thing that I'm not 100% on here is the bark-like substance being fire resistant itself, seeing as the outermost layer of tree bark is actually dead tissue. To my knowledge, dead plants burn easier than live ones, right? Unless this substance is also made of living tissue, in which case I don't have any objections, everything else is admirably solid and accessible.
     
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    Baobab - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "The cork-like bark and huge stem are fire resistant"
    "The tree can store hundreds of litres of water, which is an adaptation to the harsh drought conditions of its environment. The tree may be tapped in dry periods."

    Notes on Drysap 1
    A scouting party returned to me with a cutting from an unusual plant; a tree whose bark resembled bone. It grew from dirt, no water flowing through its veins. I bid them lead me to the copse they'd discovered, and sure enough, no water had touched that ground for aeons, I'd wager.

    As the Florans hissed and danced and hunted creatures, I sat and studied this tree, eventually removing my tools and tapping the bark for sap. It surprised me when the sap flowed. Rich, thick, viscous sap, and yet something about it made me uneasy.

    Making the Florans mutate into Oaken soldiers isn't meant to be a feature for playable characters; It's comparable to losing control over your character because it has become insane or a demon (in dark heresy). They're meant as a form of npc antagonistic thing, throwaways to kill, as they're pretty much mindless killing machines at that point.


    It seemed fitting to make their bark somewhat fire resistant because the tree Greenfinger mentions is somewhat similar to the Baobab and Drysap allows Florans to survive in hot, dry climes and their skin becomes harder. Them gaining a barklike fire-resistant skin seemed thematically interesting and is possibly a correct guess as to what Drysap does. (They also become insane, so there's no benefit in even wanting to play such a character, other than a throwaway antagonistic tribe of wildlings) They have lava in their prisons, which i'd wager they're not resistant to, but they'd probably be somewhat fire resistant, in case something were to happen... ((lava splash droplets or something))

    Anyhow those incoherent ramblings are my reasonings behind this concept of Oaken soldiers.


     
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    I don't feel that linking Photosynthesis to adrenaline production is first remotely correct or nor even right. On any sense of the terms:

    Photosynthesis is a process used by plants and other organisms to convert light energy, normally from the Sun, into chemical energy that can be later released to fuel the organisms' activities (energy transformation). A.K.A. food.

    Epinephrine, also known as adrenaline, is a hormone released by the adrenal medulla through the sympathetic nervous system during an individual’s fight or flight response. If a person is in danger, the body’s endocrine system interacts with the nervous system to give the individual the ability to attack the threat or to take flight and run away.

    I get having Photosynthesis as physical need the florans should have. Like human we do require a dose of sun light now and than for the body to produce vitamin D to defend against bone loss. But having a floran get a 24/7 adrenaline rush from photosynthesis does not make sense nor seem right.

    This is not even to say the prolong effects of adrenaline in a body. I get the florans are plants but this is a bit too far. There is a reason why our bodies can not sustain prolonged exposure to adrenaline. As it is a stress response hormone. Stress on a body has a crap ton of negative effects. Check out the follow links as examples:

    Adrenalin Side Effects
    Over-Production of Adrenaline Linked to Stress-Related Illnesses in Adults and Children
    what are the health problems caused by too much adrenaline in the body due to constant stress?


    Again I am all for that Photosynthesis should be a part of a Florans needs but link to adrenaline not a good idea. I suggest having link to the digestive system or the circulatory system.
    - Digestion example: Have it be required to be make certain enzyme for digestion, without digestion is not as efficient and cause physical stomach pains, hence effecting mental focus.
    - Circulatory example 1: Photosynthesis process allows the break down of carbon dixode and oxygen with the use of water into sugars and are released into the circulatory systems sap. With out these sugars the physical and mental drain is to that of a human have a lack of a cup of coffee for the day. Prolonged lack of sun light phsyical strength, mental sharpness, etc.
    - Circulatory example 2: Have Photosynthesis process the planet version of
    vitamin D
    for with obviously more required form the body.


    Also what about adding some along the lines of how long a floran is minimally required to be in the sun. For humans we are require at least 5 to 15 of sun light.

    Another question on Floran reproduction. While weed is a good term for it. How long would it take from there seed being planted to maturity (Like Nuru)? Granted as you stated depending on conditions. A few years or less then a decade? Either would be faster than the others organic species.

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    Other than my issue with the photosynthesis part. It looks good.
     
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    It's "similar" to adrenaline, but it's not adrenaline.
    It's linked to photosynthesis and these physiological constructs (physical and menal capacity) to explain some of the Floran's strenghts, while giving it a strong drawback. Making it an either or so(brawn or brain) we don't have tribal warrior Florans that create robots or something...
    It could explain why some Florans are thusly capable of that reverse engineering they do, whilst not being educated in the technology they have stolen, but in turn they wouldn't be as physically imposing as other Floran.

    I'm aware it doesn't make 100% sense, but it's better than what's currently out there (believe me, i've checked other server's Floran lore as well), it's got its clear advantages and disadvantages. I think it's done reasonably well, i'll await further feedback.
     
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    I get what your are saying but it would probably better to link it to C.P.H. 4 than Adrenaline. It would be better explain what you were going for.
     
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    Everyone in that thread says CPH4 isn't what they say it is, in the movie. However, you're missing the point, I stated that it was somewhat similar to adrenaline, but it's a different substance altogether. So it really doesn't matter what we label it like.
     
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    Yeah I can't remember what it is called in the movie. I get what you are TRYING to say, but labeling it similar to adrenaline is confusing. That is my point.
     
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    I figured most people wouldn't think as far as to realise the downsides of having adrenalin in your system all the time, but then again this isn't adrenalin. Adrenalin "enhances" these processes: increased heartrate, increased respiration, increased strenght and reflexes (somewhat), ...
    So it's similar that it enhances some parts of Floran physiology, but obviously, because it's a different substance, Florans suffer from its absence in their system as opposed to adrenalin, which you get adverse effects from if it's inside your system too long.
    Also I prefer the term adrenaline over epinephrine because in my native language it's called "adrenaline".
     
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    What Floran photosynthesis boils down to, game-mechanically, is that they have more increased energy regeneration.
    (I believe racials were stated to become a thing at one point)
    This translates in the usage of tech, and ammo, but we don't see those as IC concepts.
    It's also linked to using special moves with the new weapons, thus in that way you can say it enhances their physical abilities.
    Lorewise we know Florans steal and reverse engineer stuff, but it's not fully detailed whether "all" Florans can do this or not.
    From an RP standpoint, giving "all" Florans these strengths without a drawback is ridiculous, hence the drawbacks and splitting these abilities.
    You're either brawny or brainy, or perhaps a little bit of both. We're not superheroes.
     
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    Again I get that. I understand that. I have read that myself. Why is it so hard to change the name so as not to confuse people? Taking the "e" off of Adrenaline (epinephrine) does not make it least confusing. Not everyone is an idiot. Not saying you thought that either. It so ease the confusion and you having to explain this over and over.
     
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    I'll think about it.
    If it proves to be a major issue, i'll modify it.
     
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    Okay so I was reading again this and it started to bother me some. As this basically bring that whole lisp problem issue back into play again. Also Florans are plants not snakes. I can't see my floran sticking out her tongue wiggling it in the air and then going, "Wow that smell great. What are we having?" Nor can I see Professor Oak, a highly intelligent floran who suppressed his lisp do that same thing. How would you explain that?

    I know that no one wants to bring up that port-o-potty of crap lisp argument again but that is exactly what this is going to do. I would of figured by now that the agreement was that players are allowed to choose whether or not their characters have a lisp. A forked tongue does not sound like you are giving the players a choice. How do you surprise a lisp with a forked tongue? Surgically alter it?

    Tasting with a tongue is find but smell.... They are not reptiles. I would be cool seeing slits in their faces like Voldemort so that florans don't have a nose (per-say), but not a snake tongue.
    [​IMG]

    Do we really need florans to have a forked tongue?

    Again I am not trying to poke holes just bring a little common sense to the picture here.
     
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    It makes them seem more alien. It makes sense because it grants them additional abilities which fit with the Floran's theme.
    Oak smells that way too, just refrains from doing so during speech.
    I must admit that I don't think Florans have a forked tongue in the original lore, however, I thougt that this would make sense as they don't have a nose. I've checked all the recent art and they don't have a nos anywhere, nor any nostrils.

    Honestly the forked tongue is an idea which has been rather well received among the people I've let this been proof-read by.
    I think it's thematically sound and interesting and even opens up some additional RP in terms of character interaction.
     
  19. Yotan

    Yotan New Member

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    Okay I was looking around and found the floran intro png plus video.... enjoy.
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    It is clear that have some want of a nose...or slits. It is probably and either or thing... I guess?

    Also I just don't want that whole lisp issue to pop up again. Seems to be a never ending cycle of crap when it does. Just like the Glitch prefix.
     
  20. Khaltor

    Khaltor Lore Master

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    You are aware that this isn't even utilised in the game?
    This is literally the oldest piece of Floran art which has NEVER been used in the game, thus doesn't count as canon.
    All the more recent art depicts them without a nose.
    Despite the fact that the art looks so shitty, probably because it was a rushed thing which they would refine later, they don't even look like proper Florans.