Server Modpack

Hnnnnng, I'm waiting the hardest.

Anyway, these two you and I talked about yesterday, Angre

Graviton Elevators | Chucklefish Forums
Armor Stands | Chucklefish Forums

 

I think it'd be nice to include the Pixel Store mod just for the custom furniture is provides
I'd also like to make sure ACM gets carried over
Finally (and this one's the pipe dream) It would be cool if the server introduced a custom currency. Difficult to recreate in Starcheat or another editing program and not spawnable in something like ACM.

 

Big Chat obviously needs to be included. Also, extended songbook would be nice, as well as the ability to add .abc files in somewhere would be lovely.

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Big Chat | Chucklefish Forums
Extended Songbook | Chucklefish Forums

 

I'd be fine with whatever so long as it doesn't change the way the server operates in terms of RP. I'm in favour of everything mentioned so far.

 

Guys. Those are client-side mods. You can use those already. Angre is referring to server-side mods.

Client-side: You can use them without the server having to have them.
Server-side: The server has to have them or bad things happen when you join with them. (Bad things also happen to those who join and don't have them while the server has them.)

For example, ACM just changes the crafting menu in your client and adds a few nifty things.
Big Chat just changes the UI in your client, so does Extended Songbook. These things have nothing to do with the server.

However, to use Node's example above, Armor Stands are a custom item. The server has to have them so that the client knows what those objects/items are. If you join and the server lacks the mod, the server/client might freak out about it. Just the same, if someone joins and doesn't have the mod, their client may freak out (crash). Which is why I made the Antares Launcher, to synchronize the client and the server.

 

I am intelligent.

Still though, I understand the plight of everyone else. Throw some client side mods in too, just so that way peeps can be max lazy.

 

From what I understand about the launcher, client-side mods still need to be added into the list of mods managed by it in order for them to take effect in game when launching Starbound via the Antares launcher.

For example, here's the list of client side mods managed by the launcher.

Extended Songbook, for example, is not included in this list. So when I launch Starbound using the Antares launcher, even with Extended Songbook installed to my normal mods folder, it won't take effect. That's what i'm talking about here. Client side mods need to be added into this managed list. Of course, i'm not the developer of the software, so I could very well be talking out my ass. So i'll await my inevitable demise via kobold.

 

Nope, you got me. I haven't worked on the launcher in awhile, so I totally forgot. My bad.

 

Anyone know if there are gun stands? That'd be cool.

 

I have actually not seen anyone disagree with the modpack yet, and this is really concerning to me. The best ideas are forged out of discourse and compromise, not unanimous yes-manning. Please, anyone, everyone; if you've got even a sliver of a complaint to make about the modpack/launcher, make it. If you don't, it'll stay unimproved from the point it's at right now. If you have no complaints, debate against people who do have complaints. Discussion can only cause improvements, so long as you're actually having discourse and are not just insulting each other.

My largest concern is that the modpack will be putting up more red tape for new players to cut through in order to join. While it may only be a few minutes of time to download the launcher, why spend the time doing that when you can apply at a different community and get in faster? Why download something at all when there's RP to be had without any downloads? A huge issue involving downloads with the launcher at the moment is the fact that it's regarded as a virus. Why would anyone in their right mind download something that every antivirus points to as a virus? It would dissuade numerous new members i'm sure, which is not something we can really afford to do. I'll be honest with you guys, we don't draw in many new players, and we hold even less of them in long enough to become regulars. Making something that pushes people away more is not something I think we can afford to do at the moment.

 

yeah, i think that's a fair argument, and i agree with you. i will say, there's already a lot of impediments like applying and finding what planet people are on and getting ACM etc. etc., so this isn't /huge/ in comparison, but if the mods aren't that important, i would say don't make a modpack

 

I've always been of the opinion that modpacks are a hassle for people to get into. It makes going through the process of joining a community just that much more tedious and unappealing

though, I would like to argue that, if we were going with a modpack anyway, I would like to see the Avali race added. Though, if they are added, definitely definitely their lore would need to be revised in Antares. As it stands, they're mary-sue af.

 

"Avali never"
~Probably most of the server

 

I don't see much difference in them other than psychology. Otherwise they're basically Novakids.

 

I'd love avali if only for the items that it gives you. The race, while amazing, would only add confusion to the server and seek to make vanilla races less common. Maybe if we add it and make it a staff approval only race? I dunno.

I have literally no other mods I want to request, they're mostly outdated and avali is the only one that adds anything i'd ever use (the furniture).

As far as using a modpack is concerned, I think it won't make any difference at all. if people want to play, they'll download the modpack regardless. the people who comes and go within a week will be the only ones we will lose.

That said, I don't give a shit either way, I'm fine with what we've got and I'm fine with getting mods.

 

I would like and item mod for more furniture, guns, really anything that gives aesthetic more variation. There are already more gun mods than you can shake a stick at and as for furrniture, the pixel store I mentioned above has hundreds of custom assets.

 

You can already make custom guns easily, the only real appeal to gun mods is the custom projectiles. Furniture I can some what agree with.

 

the biggest thing that appeals to me about Avali is that they have a pack mentality, and if they're separated from their pack too long, it begins to affect their mental health adversely. It would make for interesting conflict RP.